diff --git a/Demos/BspDemo/BspDemo.cpp b/Demos/BspDemo/BspDemo.cpp
index 548d97e9e..a8fdb7494 100644
--- a/Demos/BspDemo/BspDemo.cpp
+++ b/Demos/BspDemo/BspDemo.cpp
@@ -181,6 +181,13 @@ void	BspDemo::initPhysics(const char* bspfilename)
 		file = fopen(bspfilename,"r");
 	}
 	if (!file)
+	{
+
+		//try again other path, cmake needs 4 levels deep back...
+		bspfilename = "../../../../BspDemo.bsp";
+		file = fopen(bspfilename,"r");
+	}
+	if (!file)
 	{
 		//try again other path, 
 		//sight... visual studio leaves the current working directory in the projectfiles folder
diff --git a/Demos/CharacterDemo/CharacterDemo.cpp b/Demos/CharacterDemo/CharacterDemo.cpp
index 97763f441..cddd22196 100644
--- a/Demos/CharacterDemo/CharacterDemo.cpp
+++ b/Demos/CharacterDemo/CharacterDemo.cpp
@@ -103,6 +103,12 @@ void CharacterDemo::initPhysics()
 
 	FILE* file = fopen(bspfilename,"r");
 	if (!file)
+	{
+		//cmake generated visual studio projects need 4 levels back
+		bspfilename = "../../../../BspDemo.bsp";
+		file = fopen(bspfilename,"r");
+	}
+	if (!file)
 	{
 		//visual studio leaves the current working directory in the projectfiles folder
 		bspfilename = "../../BspDemo.bsp";
diff --git a/Demos/ConvexDecompositionDemo/ConvexDecompositionDemo.cpp b/Demos/ConvexDecompositionDemo/ConvexDecompositionDemo.cpp
index e6b66ea99..4faadd5d5 100644
--- a/Demos/ConvexDecompositionDemo/ConvexDecompositionDemo.cpp
+++ b/Demos/ConvexDecompositionDemo/ConvexDecompositionDemo.cpp
@@ -169,6 +169,11 @@ void ConvexDecompositionDemo::initPhysics(const char* filename)
 		//when running this app from visual studio, the default starting folder is different, so make a second attempt...
 		tcount = wo.loadObj("../../file.obj");
 	}
+	if (!tcount)
+	{
+		//cmake generated msvc files need 4 levels deep back... so make a 3rd attempt...
+		tcount = wo.loadObj("../../../../file.obj");
+	}
 
 
 	
diff --git a/Demos/SerializeDemo/SerializeDemo.cpp b/Demos/SerializeDemo/SerializeDemo.cpp
index f8a200148..f9e421718 100644
--- a/Demos/SerializeDemo/SerializeDemo.cpp
+++ b/Demos/SerializeDemo/SerializeDemo.cpp
@@ -260,9 +260,13 @@ void	SerializeDemo::initPhysics()
 	btBulletWorldImporter* fileLoader = new btBulletWorldImporter(m_dynamicsWorld);
 	//fileLoader->setVerboseMode(true);
 	
-	if (fileLoader->loadFile("testFile.bullet"))
+	if (!fileLoader->loadFile("testFile.bullet"))
 	{
-		printf("loaded fine\n");
+		//cmake generated msvc files need 4 levels deep back... so make a 3rd attempt...
+		if (fileLoader->loadFile("../../../../testFileOriginal.bullet"))
+		{
+			printf("loaded fine\n");
+		}
 	}
 
 
diff --git a/testFileOriginal.bullet b/testFileOriginal.bullet
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..b94637973
Binary files /dev/null and b/testFileOriginal.bullet differ